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colmmc

I've been out all day c'os I can.

I'd like to answer a few points

 

Yes there is a follow up 6 months an Eye test and MRI to compare with the one,s pre Liberation.

 

I spend a lot of time gathering Information to put on here who Read's It?

 

Some of the old arguments that are being put forward, To my mind have already been well and truly put to bed. And if you all think that big business is going to give us a fair break then I give up.

There is one big difference between us an Cancer patients, We keep coming back for more, for a lot longer. Guaranteed repeat business.

 

I'm sorry but leaving research, Drug trials and the drawing up of the conclusions of said trials to private companies with share holders that are obviously profit driven is well............ I cant even think of a word stupid enough.

 

I have been Liberated

 

Colmmc.

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Lindyloo

I read it Colm... im no genius and i hear what you are saying....thanks mate..

 

Lindyxx


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" This moment will pass " (Bono U2)

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Tania B

Lindy,

 

Thanks for the link. Drugs do mean profits for the drug companies. Don't they?

 

Tania

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Christina

Well my youngest daughter aged 20 was diagnosed with a malignant spinal tumour this year, if there is a choice for me between whether I get to be scanned for CCSVI and whether she gets treated quickly, then I know which I'll choose. I sincerely hope she gets to 'come back for more' Colm, as you put it. I think the remarks you make about cancer patients are insensitive Colm and I hope I've misunderstood you there.


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colmmc

I'm really sorry for being insensitive, Not my intention at all. I was just trying ( badly ) to convey

how we are looked at by the money men at the Drugs companies.We are just numbers no a profit & loss sheet.And we hand them all the power without question.

Once again sorry for my blunt approach But I was just trying to get a point over.

 

Colmmc.

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Tania B

Chris,

 

I'm so very sorry to hear about your daughter's cancer and I do hope that she is treated as very soon as possible with the best treatments that are available.

 

Tania :hearts_circle:

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brainless

that goes for me too, Chris, very sad.


Lottie, x

 

LIVING IN THE MOMENT

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Christina

Thanks. I'll leave this debate to others now, I'm boring myself saying the same things over and over again and I'm sure I'm boring others too. There's only so far you can go with an argument before people start to switch off I think.


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colmmc

This is A Drug that passed all the "trials" & had all the research done on it.

and wastes all the NHS budget.

 

http://www.mschristian.org/msc/index.php/a.../5028-tysabri-t

 

I've been Liberated

 

Colmmc


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This is A Drug that passed all the "trials" & had all the research done on it.

and wastes all the NHS budget.

 

http://www.mschristian.org/msc/index.php/a.../5028-tysabri-t

 

And yet, neurologists will prescribe that in a heartbeat, but baulk at LDN or CCSVI treatment.

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And yet, neurologists will prescribe that in a heartbeat, but baulk at LDN or CCSVI treatment.

 

 

Kinda makes you think ? Don't It.

 

I've been Liberated

 

Colmmc.

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Marina
  • Do MS Ireland support research into CCSVI?

CCSVI Timeline of Events

 

The History of Chronic Cerebrospinal Venous Insufficiency in Multiple Sclerosis

I'm ever so sorry guys... would you please see http://ms-people.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10913

 

This means we'll have to delete the majority of those two posts :pig:... but I'll replace them with links to the actual articles.


Marina

(belated DX in June '05, SPMS)

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Kinda makes you think ? Don't It.

 

I've been Liberated

 

Colmmc.

 

 

Hi Colmmc

 

Pleased your happy liberated man and hope it continues. I have a question though why if you chose a stent do you need further interventions? I assume stents hold open narrowing indefinately or is this not the case/

 

Best wishes

Peter

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Lindyloo

Hi Chris

 

I do hope your daughter gets better & stronger everyday... :cheerleader: Thinking of you..xxx

 

 

Colm,

Thank you for a great discussion - i hope you continue to feel the wonderful benefits and keep well..

thanks mate. :pig:

 

 

Lindyxx


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Hi Colmmc

 

Pleased your happy liberated man and hope it continues. I have a question though why if you chose a stent do you need further interventions? I assume stents hold open narrowing indefinately or is this not the case/

 

Best wishes

Peter

Your right,the stent should work indefinitely. I don't need further treatment .

 

Ive Been Liberated

 

Colmmc.

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gingermagic

Petrov (Grozdinski's chroney!),

 

Said to me that the length of time liberation lasts should not have any reflection on the type of intervention used (stent or angio).

 

The choice of whether to stent or angio should only reflect on the type of stenosis.

 

In other words, my stenosis was treatable with angioplasty. Therefore angio is as good as a stent. A source of great debate.

 

I think TIMs gets a little carried beyond the facts with this debate. Too many experts spoil the broth! We shall see, I will keep you informed on whether I re-stenose!

 

P.S. My amantadine is in the bin! .................my LDN is not.


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Tania B
Petrov (Grozdinski's chroney!),

 

I think TIMs gets a little carried beyond the facts with this debate. Too many experts spoil the broth! We shall see, I will keep you informed on whether I re-stenose!

 

What does TIMS mean? I don't understand.

 

Thanks for you information Gingermagic.

 

Tania

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Tania B

Thanks Colm. I'll follow the link. Great stuff!

 

Tania

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Lindyloo

me 2 thanks Colm :hearts_circle:


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colmmc

Sorry again for any upset I caused, Bull in a china shop and all that, It was not my Intention.And I am truly sorry.

 

Please read this is what I was trying to get at.

 

 

http://bostonreview.net/BR35.3/angell.php

 

I have been Liberated.

 

colmmmc

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brainless

I feel increasingly depressed and hopeless/ helpless, Colm..... :butterfly::hearts_circle:


Lottie, x

 

LIVING IN THE MOMENT

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I feel increasingly depressed and hopeless/ helpless, Colm..... :cry::rofl:

Why? Now we know there is hope. What we've not had before HOPE.

 

Information over load I know but

 

Historical Review

Intracranial arteriovenous malformations were studied and classified as early as the mid-1800s (Luschka, 1854: Virchow. 1863). with the first surgical exposure of an arteriovenous malformation by Giordano occurring about three decades later in 1890. Fedor Krause attempted to surgically eliminate an arteriovenous malfo...rmation by ligating its feeding arteries in 1908 but Olivecrona appear, to have been the first to actually completely excise a cerebral arteriovenous malformation (AVM) in 1932 and later a cerebellar AVM in 1938. Except at a few major centers. however, an aggressive surgical approach to the larger examples of these lesions have awaited the major technological advances of neurological surgery, neuroradiology, and neuroanesthesia during the past several decades.

Embryology of Arteriovenous Malformations

Arteriovenous malformation of the brain are congenital lesions most likely developing during the late somite stages of the fourth week of embryonic life and almost certainly no later than the eighth week. The primary pathologic lesion consists of one or more persisting direct connections between the arterial inflow and venous outflow without an intervening capillary bed.

Early in the third week of embryonic life, cells (angioblasts) begin to differentiate from the mesoderm, forming small, syncytial islands. These small clumps of syncytial cells develop tiny sprouts that extend to interconnect the cell groups, forming a syncytial plexus. Intercellular clefts appear within the syncytial masses. These clefts fuse to form the primitive vascular lumen. The syncytial cells enveloping these clefts become the endothelium of the new vessels. Proliferative growth of this endothelium links the vascular lumina into a continuous irregular endothelial vascular meshwork over the surface of the developing brain. Further extension of the primitive network, present over the developing telencephalon of human embryos at 4 weeks of age, occurs through endothelial sprouting.

Sabin has described a fascinating alternative process for the development of the primitive vascular plexus. She observed the appearance of intracellular vacuoles which coalesced to form the future vascular lumen, with the liquid of the vacuole becoming the primitive plasma. According to this schema, the first primitive vascular lumen is embryologically an intracellular structure, with the syncytial cell, containing these interconnected vacuoles forming the primitive vascular endothelium.See more

ARTERIOVENOUS MALFORMATION

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Intracranial arteriovenous malformations were studied and classified as early as the mid-1800s (Luschka, 1854: Virchow. 1863). with the first surgical exposure of an arteriovenous malformation by Giordano occurring about three decades later in 1890. Fedor Krause at...

 

I want you all Liberated.

 

Colmmc

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Christina

Sorry Colm, I think your last post needs a link to the relevant web page - it looks like you've copied the information and posted it to us - this probably infringes its copyright. I'm sure Marina will be able to confirm.

 

Chris x


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