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Hi Nick

 

I think it was 'make sure we respond within 4 weeks' at DWP last week. I've now absorbed the fact of going through that challenging process for an effective 'no change' result. I was on Higher rate DLA for care and mobility; I'm now awarded (teeth-grinding terminology) Enhanced rate for the daily needs and mobility elements of PIP.

 

This is hopefully encouraging for all still waiting. For you, @Nick, I urge you to ask for a mandatory reconsideration, and then appeal this decision if necessary. Please don't accept losing your mobility status. You may not require a Motability car but you DO have to finance running, and eventually replacing, the current car you had adapted. Come the distant day when you no longer drive, you will need the resources to access public and community transport.

 

Needing an adapted car is an indication you have not had justice - I know it isn't a specific descriptor - so please take another deep breath and begin again.

 

This DLA- PIP process is completely flawed, logistically and morally. I'm in correspondence with my MP. Nothing will change until we hold up our hands and use plain English to explain how humiliating, time-consuming and unnecessary this application, for something we already have, is.

 

I have a 10-year award so in the months leading up to the 'soft-touch' contact, I will download the current form of 2027 and make notes. I will continue to keep records. I have annual visits to my urologist as I now have an Ileal Conduit stoma and we've moved into Extra Care. I am dependent on my wheelchairs and my time slots with the 24/7 care staff, and Pete is my lifeline.

 

That said, I am a happy person most days. It took one stupid piece of beaurocratic interference to destabilise me. MS People has thrown me many a life belt through the years. I am so pleased to be back home.

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Many thanks Shirley for your reply. 

 

I am considering things at the moment.  I think we all agree on the total disgrace of this system, and how it ever got through parliament! Not only is it  unworkable and unfair, it is also proving to be much more expensive than the previous system. 

 

I was awarded 10 points on the mobility side and that is (under these rules) about right.  I use both a scooter and a wheelchair, yet at the same time do keep walking using two sticks. That is what I need to do, I will not allow the DWP to interfere with my struggles to keep mobile, by forcing me into permanent use of the wheelchair. That is what it feels like!  That might seem a bit crazy but that is how it is. 

 

The problem, as I see it, is that there would be a danger in a 'reconsideration' that the outcome would not improve my position.  Also as the award is for two years I should then get a chance to have a more accurate outcome. One of the most annoying aspects is this business of having a short period of award. As my wife Kay said, 'Do they think you are going to get better?' It just shows that the decision makers are not really doing their jobs adequately. 


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That is great news Shirl.

Not quite sure of diffference between higher rate DLA and Enhanced rate PIP is but then the whole PIP Thing is a mystery.

 

I went to see local centre for integrated living people based at multi denomination church here and it was easier less stressful having some o e else fill form out for mandatory appeal.

 

The benefit adviser was very sympathetic and like everyone there has been through process herself. 

 

I m gearing up for refusal as I kind of want the next stage of appeal and have decided to not bother with MP for now as it's only been his secretary so far who has (sort of) taken an interest.

Totally different to MP ten years ago when I got 3 replies from house of commons !

I have nothing so losing everything as is threatened if I lose doesn't worry me.

 

The losing car is really stupid as I will get back on scheme at some point.

For me it was handy when I got puncture etc someone else fixed it ( I couldn't nowadays).

 

My argument now is how an assessor can overrule two doctors and a private occupational Physician one of whom was an ATOS  Dr who the DWP still use ?

 

My dilemma will be if I win this mandatory appeal and it is lower than previous DLA 🤔but I'll cross that bridge if it happens.

 

Thanks for keeping us informed and giving us all bit of hope .

WobblyGreg

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Nick said:

Many thanks Shirley for your reply. 

 

I am considering things at the moment.  I think we all agree on the total disgrace of this system, and how it ever got through parliament! Not only is it  unworkable and unfair, it is also proving to be much more expensive than the previous system. 

I was awarded 10 points on the mobility side and that is (under these rules) about right.  I use both a scooter and a wheelchair, yet at the same time do keep walking using two sticks. That is what I need to do, I will not allow the DWP to interfere with my struggles to keep mobile, by forcing me into permanent use of the wheelchair. That is what it feels like!  That might seem a bit crazy but that is how it is. 

The problem, as I see it, is that there would be a danger in a 'reconsideration' that the outcome would not improve my position.  Also as the award is for two years I should then get a chance to have a more accurate outcome. One of the most annoying aspects is this business of having a short period of award. As my wife Kay said, 'Do they think you are going to get better?' It just shows that the decision makers are not really doing their jobs adequately. 

Kay is right and they are wrong. However, are you actually safe walking? Plus, is your walkling truly feasible over the 20 metres descriptor? It would be a travesty of 'justice' if you were to fall and really hurt yourself. I really don't want to nag you or challenge your own sense of Truth. Please forgive me if that is so.

 

I was honest to say I can walk with my zimmer and/or walking stick indoors. a few metres at a time and not always able. It is the combination of my knackered power supply and severely latent visual to brain responses that make walking outdoors impossible. A while back, at our previous home, a physiotherapist, working with me post-operatively, took me out over two steps and down the path. She very soon discovered how dangerous this was. I only agreed to try because I was being 'good'. Sometimes fitting into the constraints of a system seems the right thing to do but is not necessarily the right thing for you, surely?

 

I respect your decision, Nick, but I feel sad you are not getting the help you had before this process. A flawed system is therefore winning. And it is highly unlikely you will be healed in two years time. That is the other part of your award that is faulty... unless the assessor indicated you had more disability than you were claiming for?

 

There will come a time when this thread will close - for sheer length. I hope it will be pinned because PIP is the biggest benefit hurdle those of us with MS face. I believe there are rumblings of discontent in the House but we need Brexit out of the way and then we can make ourselves heard.

 

Just give yourself time to think, as you say, Nick. Be kind to yourself meanwhile.

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38 minutes ago, Shirl said:

I hope it will be pinned

It's currently better than pinned, as it was added to Spotlight a while ago. This means it currently also shows at the bottom of the forum index page in the Spotlight scroller and it's also currently linked to at the bottom of notification emails :flowerface:


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Thanks again Shirley,

 

One reason for going 'public' with my PIP 'Voyage'  was to try and help other people who may be struggling more than me to understand the system.

 

That also helps me and I am very thankful for your response. 

 

One of the problems in all this is the fact that our capabilities are all different.  I am very limited in my walking ability and had actually shown the assessor some cuts and bruises I had sustained from a fall a couple of weeks previously to my assessment.  You can call me stubborn but I continue to take risks, in order to maintain walking ability.  I also do group exercises specifically aimed at maintaining muscle strength.  A while ago I was involved in a long term study of SPMS with specific regard to using the drug Natalizumab to improve walking ability. My EDSS level at that time was measured at 6. This would put me at the 10 level I achieved at the PIP assessment.  

 

Having said all that it is clear to both Kay and I that my main requirement for 'support' is in regard to mobility, rather than in daily living.  I changed over from a motorbility car three years ago, in all truth because I felt I was not getting good value for money. This was lucky because now I am quite happy owning my own car which is modified and I don't have to worry about it being taken back.  The support money I am now getting is roughly the same as before (slightly more in fact)  and I will still be able to retain my blue badge (That is independent to some extent from the PIP system) 

 

Moving on, I have now got my assertors report back from the DWP  and that makes for interesting reading.   What I would stress to others is to make sure you get all the supporting evidence you can beforehand. It is clear that in my case nobody at the DWP contacted any of my specialists,  I would also suspect that the documents I did submit were probably not read. Rather they are simply noted and my wording  in the PIP form was simply 'tested' for inconsistency. 

 

As the DWP says itself, the assessment is not a medical.  The whole process therefore puts the onus of understanding what is being asked on the applicant.  Another very good reason perhaps for using an indecent specialist to help you filling in the forms. Even that is reliant on the expertise of the assisting person. 


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A couple of little updates or rather things i have heard whilst waiting for my appeal result pt1 

I had a meeting with my MS nurse after benefit adviser and have appointment with Neuro in November to get another Chec k up as I think I am probably not RRMS more secondary also the anthrophy has gotten worse.

 

Nurse said as I'd been off radar for ten years it was best if they saw me once a year just for this very reason (another expense the PIP/Dwp Nazis have cost NHS).

 

ALSO I was told that a nurse had sat in on a PIP assessment to help a brain damaged patient and was told how surprised they were that the assessor  asked same questions over and over when the Nurse pointed this out the assessor  stopped , but the Nurse said this was to catch inconsistencies in answers in other words to trick you ! This is as nurse said is not how you are trained as a nurse and found it hard to believe  a former nurse can behave that way .

 

I also spoke to my car dealer who has said I'm not by any means his first Motobility return I get impression they are pretty pissed off as well.

 

I have sorted another car out which when I get the lump sum for returning motobility car will more than pay for , I like the monthly payments rather than forking cash out for car i have to mot and service etc.

 

In fact I might not join motobility scheme again as I don't trust government to not change the rules again.

 

All in all I feel very betrayed by this government and am glad I never voted for them and never will .

 

I'll post update when I get result of mandatory first appeal 😎

 

 

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Good to hear you are back on the MS Radar.

 

When I had a motorbility car I found the dealers were pretty useless.  Finding the local company that these people tend to use to modify the cars, may be a better way of getting decent information about suitable modifications.  In my area I now use just such a company who have the knowledge and expertise to advise properly.  

 

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A couple of little updates or rather things i have heard whilst waiting for my appeal result pt1 

I had a meeting with my MS nurse after benefit adviser and have appointment with Neuro in November to get another Chec k up as I think I am probably not RRMS more secondary also the anthrophy has gotten worse.

 

Nurse said as I'd been off radar for ten years it was best if they saw me once a year just for this very reason (another expense the PIP/Dwp Nazis have cost NHS).

 

ALSO I was told that a nurse had sat in on a PIP assessment to help a brain damaged patient and was told how surprised they were that the assessor  asked same questions over and over when the Nurse pointed this out the assessor  stopped , but the Nurse said this was to catch inconsistencies in answers in other words to trick you ! This is as nurse said is not how you are trained as a nurse and found it hard to believe  a former nurse can behave that way .

 

I also spoke to my car dealer who has said I'm not by any means his first Motobility return I get impression they are pretty pissed off as well.

 

I have sorted another car out which when I get the lump sum for returning motobility car will more than pay for , I like the monthly payments rather than forking cash out for car i have to mot and service etc.

 

In fact I might not join motobility scheme again as I don't trust government to not change the rules again.

 

All in all I feel very betrayed by this government and am glad I never voted for them and never will .

 

I'll post update when I get result of mandatory first appeal 😎

 

 

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I had result of mandatory appeal and was awarded points but just under what is needed for standard .

 

I took from that they obviously have doubts over assessors report and baring in mind I enclosed an occupational Physician report from years ago saying I would get worse I was quite surprised they didn't award me standard on care as I'd met criteria even by assessors biased report.

 

I have meeting with my adviser this week and we will put in appeal for the big appeal with independent judge type figure . (Forget name)

 

The news coming out about DWP in media is quite shocking and they seem to be messing everything up even resorting to paying Cab millions to help with universal credit.

 

And to further add to my woes I got tax bill basically asking for the rebate they gave me 6 months ago back 

I've hired a tax advisor for that though as way over my head.

 

 

 

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On ‎2018‎-‎10‎-‎24 at 10:04, WobblyGreg said:

I had result of mandatory appeal and was awarded points but just under what is needed for standard .

 

I took from that they obviously have doubts over assessors report and baring in mind I enclosed an occupational Physician report from years ago saying I would get worse I was quite surprised they didn't award me standard on care as I'd met criteria even by assessors biased report.

 

I have meeting with my adviser this week and we will put in appeal for the big appeal with independent judge type figure . (Forget name)

 

The news coming out about DWP in media is quite shocking and they seem to be messing everything up even resorting to paying Cab millions to help with universal credit.

I'm sure this has given you hope if nothing else, Greg. It is so unfair you have to go through this, lose your car and launch an appeal. Your stress levels are being severely tested so look after yourself. That is hard when you are in the thick of it, I know. I really hope the appeal finds favour with your case and shows, yet again, how wrong this " DLA ends, would you like to apply for PIP" system is.

 

My MP was fully behind my case. Not all of HM Govt like what the Cameron-Osborne agenda left us with. We have to keep letting MPs know what we are going through and why the impact is unfair, unwarranted and an insult to those of us who need welfare most.

 

On ‎2018‎-‎10‎-‎24 at 10:04, WobblyGreg said:

And to further add to my woes I got tax bill basically asking for the rebate they gave me 6 months ago back 

I've hired a tax advisor for that though as way over my head.

Oh No! How on earth are you staying sane? Thank goodness for advisors. All the best with this process.



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Shirl 

Luckily the benefit adviser has gone through this before and also the manager there has just won her appeal .

 

The appeal will be held there and I will have a Dr and a county court judge and possibly some one from the dwp  Nazi  party who I will object too for the record.

It could take up to 6 months.

 

My MP is useless doesn't personally respond to emails I will tell him that when I see he him again.(please don't ask me to contact him again).

 

Benefit adviser wrote my appeal letter and pointed out they had ignored everything she had written in mandatory appeal including occupational physians report and had not despite permission be given contacted any of the 2 Dr and Ms  nurse I gave them contact details of.

 

Staying sane is not really a problem as I cope by releasing anger out on any poor sucker that parks in a blue badge space I might need 🤣

Managed to avoid criminal charges this far.

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On 26/10/2018 at 13:49, WobblyGreg said:

Luckily the benefit adviser has gone through this before and also the manager there has just won her appeal .

 

The appeal will be held there and I will have a Dr and a county court judge and possibly some one from the dwp  Nazi  party who I will object too for the record.

It could take up to 6 months

Oh Greg, our DLAtoPIP journeys have ended in very different places. You are navigating the situation we all fear. For you it is real. I am so sorry you have been let down by such a lacklustre service.

 

It is interesting to read your Extra Appeal Excursion. I had no idea who, where or what would happen. May common sense and a deep fear of getting-it-wrong again prevail. And I hope you will somehow cope and not become stressed out.

 

On 26/10/2018 at 13:49, WobblyGreg said:

My MP is useless doesn't personally respond to emails I will tell him that when I see he him again.(please don't ask me to contact him again).

I apologise if I repeated myself. Having bad representation goes against the reason for democracy.

 

 I hope to read better news one day. Keep looking for Blue Badge Abusers! "Oh, I only wanted a newspaper..." "I hurt my ankle playing badminton..." etc. 

 

We never park in a Blue Bay if I forget to put my Badge in my handbag. I don't keep it in the car as, being a non-driver, I'm often taken out by friends.

 

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A quick update 

I had consultation with Neuro I am as I suspected now secondary progressive , caused by stress of PIP no doubt.

My appeal has now been moved to magistrates court no explanation as to why.

 

I will of course say that "I now am made to feel like a criminal and that I'm sure is your intention". 

 

The PIP 20metre rule means I won't get full rate as Neuro stated I have to rest if I walk 50m although I stop before that . No consideration as to safety or pain one is in when walking/limping but that's the rules now.

 

My sentencing at court will be start of next month I'm sure the DWP/NAZI PARTY  will have the concentration camps up and running by then .

 

I'll keep you all informed 

 

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Just an update.

 

My GP has now signed me off regarding cardiac support as I use alternative therapies rather than conventional medicine,

 

I have been turned down twice for PIP now due to not having any medical evidence to back up what I have said on my form

 

The case went to tribunal but when I got the paperwork back it included the note that the DWP asked the judge to refuse the appeal

 

A carers' group here in East Sussex have said they will send someone round to help with a future claim so I am waiting for them to get back to me.

 

 

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And finally after my PIP assessment back in August the consequence being my lifetime award of high rate care and mobility being taken away and replaced by the near impossible to get PIP . The journey finally ends ( for a while anyway).

 

I had my tribunal or appeal I still don't know really but it was I'd imagine for most quite an intimidating experience.

 

The case was heard in local magistrates court an imposing place with security like an airport I was scanned as I entered  by guard as well as the walk through turnstile thingy.

 

My freind came with me as she has been through appeal herself and with her son.

She knows me and was worried I would lose temper and get done for contempt of court lol

 

The judge was solicitor there was  a Doctor and a lady from disabled organisations THE NAZI PARTY DWP DID NOT TURN UP !!!

 

What I didn't realise was the tribunal decision was made on what I was like back in August although they took into account stress I suffered since.

The meeting lasted one hour, after initial summary and my answer they asked my freind how I'd been effected in time she'd known me ( 5 years) and how I was back then.

 

I presented on day my Nuero report as didn't get that in time to send by post.

He'd stated I can walk to a maximum of 50m before stopping to rest etc.

 

I did get a bit aggressive during questioning and apologised when we came back for decision and letter confirming meeting.

 

I was awarded Standard rate on both Care and Mobility , which baring in mind the very unfair 20m ruling and fact I said I didn't have grab rails in shower was probably right.

 

I got award for 5 years which I think is okay but as my condition won't improve  bit silly .

 

The judge noticed my case was quite unique and she had not known before the DWP awarding me the points I needed on one area but not implementing those points in any award. 

 

I should have been receiving money since October ! 

I said I hadn't noticed the total either and if it took her to see it I had no chance.

 

The whole experience has been stressful my ms made worse all because I was given a hopeless assessor who never listened and what I noticed day before tribunal reading thru assessment notes lied by saying i said i had primary progresice MS which i didnt .

 

The whole PIP Thing is to my mind is a step backward for disabled people 

 

But I won my appeal/tribunal  can't do any more than that. I will be applying for higher rate or what Is now called enhanced rate at some point but I will enjoy the back dated payment the 2k I got for mobility car put whole shitty experience down to the country and this government's shitty attitude toward Disabled .

 

Prey none of my family get sick cash in my pension enjoy or try to enjoy what time I have left and curse all politicians to hell.

Greg

 

 

 

 

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I also was award a lifetime award of high rate DLA for both parts then ended up with zero points for P.I.P.

 

I have addressed an envelope and will be writing off for my form for my 3rd attempt at P.I.P.

 

The DWP turned up for my tribunal and asked the judge to refuse an appeal, which they did. I didn't think they could do that so I learnt something new that time.

 

I'm housebound now as my DLA paid for transport costs since I can't use buses and have nor car (medically unfit to drive due to the medical conditions I appear to have miraculously recovered from). I have recently been signed off for access to the cardiac team due to only using alternative therapies so I won't be meeting the team that I have never met so nothing missed there...lol

 

I still don't have any medical evidence of my medical conditions but since the P.I.P. form only asks how my disability affects me I fail to see why I need to send them evidence when I don't have any. I am severely affected every day but since I don't see any consultants now I won't be getting any evidence any time soon.

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2 hours ago, Gosport Nancy said:

 

 

I still don't have any medical evidence of my medical conditions but since the P.I.P. form only asks how my disability affects me I fail to see why I need to send them evidence when I don't have any. I am severely affected every day but since I don't see any consultants now I won't be getting any evidence any time soon.

There is your problem 

To be quite blunt and I don't disbelieve you as I do  but they will argue with no evidence from medically qualified professionals anyone can say that.

 

Even at appeal stage they still made their decision on evidence I had from Nuero and nurse as well as Dr asking me load of personal questions (When I got shitty) .

 

We might not like that and god knows I argued with my Nuero  10 years ago to extent I all but said I would sue him if he never sent me for more test for other diseases  .

 

You have to fight but you will have to see a qualified somebody to get anywhere imho

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1 hour ago, WobblyGreg said:

There is your problem 

To be quite blunt and I don't disbelieve you as I do  but they will argue with no evidence from medically qualified professionals anyone can say that.

 

Even at appeal stage they still made their decision on evidence I had from Nuero and nurse as well as Dr asking me load of personal questions (When I got shitty) .

 

We might not like that and god knows I argued with my Nuero  10 years ago to extent I all but said I would sue him if he never sent me for more test for other diseases  .

 

You have to fight but you will have to see a qualified somebody to get anywhere imho

It's a catch 22. I treat my symptoms with alternative treatments and because I don't want to take conventional medicine as I have tried the recommended meds and ended up worse off, my GP has signed me off from seeing anyone who could help.

 

It appears to me, as someone who avoided the meds from the late 80's right up until 2017, that this is too late to start asking to see a specialist or whoever.

 

My most recent trip to the neurologist was back in the early 90's when I was referred by my GP because he suspected M.S. The neurologist told me he thought (without any investigations) that all my symptoms were down to anxiety. I decided then I would take responsibility for my own health and never asked to be referred again.

 

When I applied for DLA, a GP carried out the examination and picked up all the symptoms I included on my claim and I succeeded that time and on every update. I asked the DWP to include the evidence from the DLA claim as that was included as an option so clearly they ignored my request as the report from that GP with his evidence would have been included.

 

I am now housebound due to my condition so am unable to see a specialist, even if I wanted to

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I'm afraid this a bit of a game contrived by the DWP, who make the rules and dictate the game.

As far as an application to "play the game", if you "fail to prepare, you prepare to fail!". You really need professional 3rd party assistance, to provide the objectivity to play the game well. Citizens Advice, the MS Society all provide varying levels of assistance. There are others.

 

My Brother-in-law has recently played the ESA game. The poor guy is being investigated for early onset Dementia and has a major problem. I couldn't attend the assessment with him and it didn't go well. As with mental issues, he deludes himself that he is more capable than he is! He got declined.

 

I prepared the mandatory reconsideration for him, but that failed too. I think everyone fails this step.

 

I submitted the Appeal, as his representative. I was fortunate that he was with me when the DWP decided to call him to chat about it and I was able to take on the call. I also spoke to them the next day, to give them a brief history of events over the last few years, which have probably led to his present problems.

Long story short, they reversed their decision there and then.

 

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@Stumbler So far as failing to prepare...I asked them to use the evidence from my DLA claim but they didn't.

 

The irony is that I have in the past, helped many people with their DLA and ESA claims and they all succeeded, but I don't seem to be able to help myself with my P.I.P claim.

 

The carers' support here said they would send someone to help with my form but as it takes several months to organise a home visit from them and I have to send the form in within 4 weeks I don't see how that could work. 

 

I'm now working a lot more hours to replace the DLA I don't now have so it's just as well I work from home.

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@Gosport Nancy , the system is broken! I applaud the DWP for what their plans were, just not the way they're implemented.

 

You experience is why we need some knowledgeable assistance. I'm not sure how your request to use your DLA evidence was made, but I would have made a request to the Court to direct the DWP to supply this evidence. Consider that advice to be the most untimely ever offered.

 

I have trouble completing forms too. Not that I have any upper limb problems, I just so rarely pick up a pen. The DWP forms are normally available on their website and I can use Adobe Acrobat to complete the forms with my keyboard, then print them out. Sorry, more untimely advice - I'm good at this, aren't I? :headscratch::shakehead:

 

The system is designed for you to fail, so our preparation and assistance has to exceed all the traps laid out for us.

 

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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming... "Wow! What a ride!"

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28 minutes ago, Stumbler said:

@Gosport Nancy , the system is broken! I applaud the DWP for what their plans were, just not the way they're implemented.

 

You experience is why we need some knowledgeable assistance. I'm not sure how your request to use your DLA evidence was made, but I would have made a request to the Court to direct the DWP to supply this evidence. Consider that advice to be the most untimely ever offered.

 

I have trouble completing forms too. Not that I have any upper limb problems, I just so rarely pick up a pen. The DWP forms are normally available on their website and I can use Adobe Acrobat to complete the forms with my keyboard, then print them out. Sorry, more untimely advice - I'm good at this, aren't I? :headscratch::shakehead:

 

The system is designed for you to fail, so our preparation and assistance has to exceed all the traps laid out for us.

 

:moonieman:

There is a tick box now on the PIP form which you tick if you want DLA information used. It's a new addition that wasn't an option the first time I applied.

 

I chat to people on a PIP related group on Facebook and many of the replies are from successful claimants who have no diagnosis at all and therefore no medical evidence. They say how their disability affects them and that is what their award is based on.

 

I have to conclude that it's luck of the draw whether you get an award or not

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@Gosport Nancy , I can only agree with you that luck, or a change of philosophy, has occurred at the DWP.

 

I've just heard of a PIP reassessment when someone was taken from top whack on DLA to no mobility, standard care on PIP. That was a decision I agreed with, knowing the circumstances.

 

An appeal was submitted, just for the hell of it, with a known risk of losing the whole lot. Well, the DWP further reassessed the case and have decided to reverse the decision and pay enhanced PIPon both mobility and care!! The person involved attended assessments on foot and took no steps (unfortunate choice of words!) to portray a false position.

 

I can't understand the change of decision and personally feel it is totally wrong and inappropriate. This was beyond the person's wildest expectations. So, who influenced the DWP to make such an uncharacteristic and complete u-turn? The person knows my views and can't adequately explain the change of stance...............

 

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John aka Stumbler (as I do fall over!)

Illegitimi non carborundum

 

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming... "Wow! What a ride!"

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