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Happymama

Odd symptom (probs not MS) and christmas cake with cheese

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Happymama

Hi all.

 

Am seeing the optometrist tomorrow within a 24 hour timeframe from report of symptoms (so serious) for flashes in the corners of my eyes when I move them, and a huge crop of really thick floaters.

 

This is ok, there's loads of info online.  I know what it is.  

 

This is different:  Laid in bed (insomnia due to full moon interference, a story in itself) staring at the bookcase, I had a dark spot in the outer of my eye, which spread like powder in a cloud shape across my eye to the other side - I could see through the outer reaches of this, it was thinner there, so the powder analogy works.  Then it retraced very smoothly, and then came again three times in that eye, and twice in t'other.  A week or so later happened from above.  I can SEE this, as in close my eyes and it's in reverse colour.  

 

There is nothing online about this, which is extraordinary in itself I think.  

 

Also how else likes Christmas cake (or Genoa - my fave) with Cheshire or Wensleydale cheese?  I like them thickly sliced both.  The creaminess and acidity of the cheese, plus the same texture as the rich, sweet and fruity cake, makes them perfect flavour partners.  

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Stumbler

Wow, you're sure over-dosing on MS fun at the moment, @Happymama .

 

I can only use my sense of logic on this latest ocular conundrum. I think it may be to do with the fact that you were staring at your bookcase. If there are books of contrasting colours, your eyes would see the brighter colours as "dazzling" compared to the darker colours. This would cause a temporary "screen-burn" of the bright images on your eyes. this screen-burn would move as your eyes move.

 

That's my best take on this issue. It may be complete b******* (please insert your favourite word!) but it's the best I can do!

 

Christmas cake? That was ages ago...............

 

Take care

 

:moonieman:


John aka Stumbler (as I do fall over!)

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Ha, no, that's not what it was.  It definitely was in my eyes, or in front of them.  Happened from the top a few days later, when I was dozing, I saw it on the back of my eyelids and it went in and out, and I opened my eyes and saw it then too, looking at the ceiling.  It was MOVING.  Eye burn does not.   Told you it was odd.  It looked like powder, literally so I could see through the outer reaches but not the base, where it was thicker.  And retracted again, to come out again in a reaching cloud across my sight towards my nose, and back.  Several times each time.  

 

The Photophasia is probably vitreous detachment which causes internal bleeding, hence the increase in much thicker floaters than usual, and many more than I had before.  I was asked if I had a dark veil across, which isn't exactly what I experienced, a heavy bleed would NOT have retracted.  That is a serious detachment if it was across all of it. Surgery.  

 

Optical neuritis I hope.  Neat explanation and a referral to my GP who will refer it to a neurologist (given my history) as soon as possible.  

 

Christmas cake - loads left. Love Genoa, it's delicious, not as heavy as Christmas cake and still works with crumbly cheese.  I have Christmas cake left over from last year and it's perfectly good to eat now.  I've been putting it out for the birds. 

 

Have worked out that reading with head down means the floaters are in the way all the time, I keep brushing my face to shift hairs that aren't there. Reading head up so as looking at the TV lets them all drop down a bit out of the way.  My eyes are a bit bloodshot, too.  

 

 

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Stumbler

Let's hope the Optometrist has a view on this (See what I did there!).

 

And let's hope you can get to see a Neurologist, who will look at your case history and reach a decision for you.

 

:moonieman:

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John aka Stumbler (as I do fall over!)

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Marina

@Happymama, this may or may not be related to what you’ve been having? In my case, the “dancing crystals” in my vision (as I call them) tend to be multi-coloured or they can be just sort of white:

 

 

 


Marina

(belated DX in June '05, SPMS)

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Happymama

Back with news.  Went at two to see an expert, back at five.  

 

Not a migraine, I know what visual migraines look like.

 

I had a wide field photo of both eyes, at the hospital, and a jelly loaded mirror lens pushed against my left eye directly, which was odd.   Oh and three lots of pupil dilating stuff as sat around waiting for the photo for so long they had to use some more and it wasn't the stuff you wait 20 mins for it to work, either.  

 

As you age, from around 30, your Vitreous Humour (the jelly bit behind the lens, and iris etc, but before the retina.  The retina is at the back.) starts to dry out and shrink (made of collagen), once it shrinks so far, usually beyond 50 and in short sighted people, people who've had bangs on the head, people who've had retina surgery before and unlucky folk like me, it pulls away from the retina. It can do this quickly as my right eye did. Or slowly, with stubborn bits stuck down bleeding, and when the tug happens when you turn your eye, you get electrical impulses that turn to light.  They are around the eye, any across the eye is an emergency. 

 

I have blood in my VH.  There is a bruise too, and bleeding going on, on the stressed retina, which will clear.  I have some fearsome floaters, sticks thicker than usual, these should clear as they're made of blood.    Still can see ok.  

 

No one knows what the other thing is.  No one's ever heard of it before.  I'll keep a diary (yet another lol).  

 

 

Warning signs:  flashes across the eye, not around, and a veil of brown across the eye - both emergencies, go to A&E.  You need retinal surgery urgently.  It can affect your sight untreated.  

 

Glad I persisted in looking for a parking space (in a local street, not permit only, a rare beast indeed!) because where I thought of parking, there was another car and it has a ticket.  I was ten mins late though.  Took half an hour to find that space.  

 

Now having a pot of herbal tea, before I find something to eat.  Not had anything since two mince pies at lunchtime.  Fasting gap has now vanished but you can't win them all.  Oh and the engine management light has come on in the car. No idea why, runs ok.  

 

 

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Well, that's a pretty comprehensive and technical explanation.

 

Is that it now, or have you got a follow-up?

 

As for the car, don't ignore that warning light if it persists.........

 

:moonieman:


John aka Stumbler (as I do fall over!)

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Happymama

Hi, the warning light is the oxygen sensor and there are two, we turned the warning light off before the MoT and it passed the emissions test with flying colours so it's the oxygen sensor that's broken but it's been there 20 years under the car in all the salt and mud and brake dust etc as well as rain.  It might take hours to remove (£££££) and then a new one is around £300.  If I can turn it off for MoT's  then no problem.  I have the OBD2 kit to do that.  Can find the codes for a Toyota Yaris 2003 online too.  

 

Re the eye the consultant told me that the remaining flashes would clear up in six to eight weeks. Still getting them down the left side of my left eye.  No more thick floaters though.  

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@Happymama , you're probably seen this article :-

 

 

WWW.WHEELSJOINT.COM

The O2 sensor in Toyota Yaris monitors the level of oxygen in the engine’s exhaust gases and reports the data to the control unit that continuously...

Enough said!

 

:moonieman:

 


John aka Stumbler (as I do fall over!)

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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming... "Wow! What a ride!"

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Happymama

Hi, no. I get NONE of those symptoms.  I get MPG over that which Toyota say is possible, still.  it runs like a dream.  So no problem.  

 

The garage say that older sensors can be funny things, they can do odd stuff.  Say they're broken when they're not is one of them.  So  I carry on as normal, turn the fault off before MoT, it doesn't come on during, they do the emissions test, it runs fine, i get the car back, the light comes on a few days later - no one else will own this car, it's 20 years old!  It'll be scrapped on my watch but not until I've wrung every mile out of it for environmental, sustainability reasons, as we should with every ICE car.  Anything else is waste.  

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Seems fair enough then.

 

I agree with your green credentials.

 

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